Comments on: parody versus stealing

By: andrew

andrew — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:18:24 +0000

yes im starting to think using ads was the wrong way of going about this… perhaps i will find some better examples… but i agree with brian that it’s an exciting time for what can be done with culture, a lot of consumers are getting dumber, but i think a lot are getting smarter too and demanding higher quality stuff, the re-signing of arrested development for one…

and i dont know what to think of this cartoon central thing… thanks?

By: mister jason eano

mister jason eano — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:00:13 +0000

I havnt been called a boychick since the surgery, how sweet….The reason I think advertising lies outside the fair to comment realm, is because yes in the blue moon you have an add that is an inventive artistic expression of a brand, but in my eyes the whitestripes rip off nissan and other examples of the same, or nothing more than an attempt to draw the eye and click it in to a relateable subject to identify with demographically. Granted I don’t think its fair to intellectually copy right camera techniques but at least make a creative move with it, dont just pardoy the number one single from the past 8 months.

ya heard

By: Nate S.B.

Nate S.B. — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:41:44 +0000

hey boychicks,
I dont have time…i have no time.
i’ll correspond soon. i’m going to HK now.
xoxo,
SB loves you

By: Cartoon Central

Cartoon Central — Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:27:39 +0000

I Love Parody
I love parody, too….

By: brian

brian — Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:23:25 +0000

A serious binary does exist, tightly locked within this culture of ours. Yes, there’s the movie remakes, the minor threat rip off, the white stripes rip off, and countless others. Signs taken from what has been born within other cultures, whether sub or not. However, from within where these signs are produced lies a really creative collective of “intellectual freedom fighters” of which we are all a part of. Your use of banksy’s style is not a rip off. It’s just progression. Music builds upon music, and that’s the way it has to be. Adding a creative (and attempted spin originale) is how this progression continues. It can be problematic, especially if something is carbon copied or put within a ridiculous context (major threat), but of course the stuff we come up with is going to be influenced by what others have done.

Hmm. I don’t really know where I’m going with this, if it makes sense, or if its anythign worth stating again, but I guess i’m just making it known that I’m really happy with where we are right now–in terms of what we have and can do with our culture.

ps. it’s hard to write a good comment in this little scrolling text box, forgetting what i’ve written above. It’s better for those “wwwwoooooo, party tonight!” comments.

I still love the chopper.

By: andrew

andrew — Sat, 25 Jun 2005 03:10:00 +0000

hmm yes, i suppose advertising is different than ‘real’ artistic cultural products, but ads are still texts to be read, and very indicative of our culture… not to mention the fine line between advertising and entertainment… entertainment tonight, mtv, etc…. and thats funny about the remakes, original script movies are my favourite: every wes anderson, adaptation, eternal sunshine, matrix, lost in translation…

By: mister jason eano

mister jason eano — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:13:36 +0000

Your point is made, and right, that cultural product for sale has reached some sort of stagnant need to remake that which was popular. Just look at movie trends this summer. Every major blockbuster is a remake of some creative work of old dolled up for the new millenia:

Charlie and the chocolate factory
War of the Worlds
The Bad News Bears
this list goes on but you get the idea.

I dont think however you can argue it with advertising like Nike and Nissan for the simple fact thats its shallow in my eyes to use blatant advertising as intellectual theft.

Advertising is an industry based out of mass producing the “in” finding new ways to use it, until you suck the creative and compelling life out of any new thing to the point where people feel as though they need to find something new or become an anti representative of the original’s pure form.

There is a necessity with adverts to prey on the popular and until cynical eyes start being educated world wide you wont see a change in advertising.

back to the movies though, heres a question. Does anyone else feel weird about a movie that comes out now with an original script.

For instance, Cinderella Man, I was all like it musnt be good because I have never heard of it before, its an epic, and its not based on anything.

My pre-movie critiques have been jaded by the movement of the remake.